I don’t understand. How does a picture of someone talking about TF2 feet pics equal to proof of “embezzlement”

Or am I some sort of idiot

flamewarduck dmed me

said we should ban everyone involved with megabastard.tf

probably doesn't help we have 0 discord mods on

I don't really see the issue, from what I've seen it's just where the regulars hang out and don't have to comply with our strict rules

Which I totally understand

If we banned everyone in there we'd have no regulars

another dm

I'm leaving it alone, I'm friends with a lot of people in there

i'm not in there so idk what goes on or if this racism stuff is true

but if it is, i wouldn't be aligned with them

Oh it's 100 percent not

They just make jokes and stuff that people take way too seriously

I'd prefer it if you didn't comment on the matter though.

If this racist behaviour continues to be allowed there, I'm done with this project. Not even joking. I'm not risking losing a Discord server/getting Moonly banned over some edgy people.

I understand black humour and that people like it, but that's not the place for it.

Tomorrow I'll be up to review some mods, if someone wants, feel free to join VC.

ill help out

what time

I think by tomorrow/today morning

I don't know where you live exactly

9-10am GMT-3

yeah the uhh racist homophobic transphobic general bigotry has gotta stop

its kinda past time

is that your face stephanie

Wait what racism is going on?

yes

cool

pretty

i guess

Jonathan just because they are your friends doesn't mean they get a free pass

I'll help out as well

I'm tired of all this bullshit

i guess we can try this evening ish?

Jota said 9 am gmt-3

Which is 11 gmt

And 14 gmt+3 respectively

well i trust you to do it without me, i have to be working.

No problem

You still may join after if you'll have time

if i can i will.

How the hell are other communities handleing this bullshit

Anyways, Lesson for future: Never make any official social media groups that are run by the company itself

what do you mean by that?

I mean, communities should be run by people on the community

And not directly by staff

That's probably why Discord does not have any official Discord server.

That sounds weird

By you get me

I hope

I think i do. i guess its best when its handled by trusted individuals

discord.gg/discord

I wonder if that is a blacklisted url

discord.gg/discord-developers

That's their "official" one

It is

But it is not a general discord server

Yeah, that's why I put between quotes.

It only has 4 boosts

Pathetic

After one day of not knowing why my new button wasn't working, I realized it was because I didn't declare it as a const at the top of the file

Sign this petition so C.TF can add 2fort and Hightower

Ohh nice. what this exists

ASS

I think it will be a fun idea to share this petition once Moonly's idea for ctf is done and we are about to implement

So like: "Guys, sign this petition so we can add CTF back"

And then 5m later "Ok, we're done."

soo we can add CTF to C.TF

ctf to C.TF

or is it C.TF to CTF hmmm

yes

Can we add ct.f to c.tf so we can add ctf to .ctf

Speaking of it

It's not that hard to make it btw

Considering that I already remember how it worked like

I might do it today

It would be nice. i think some people would love to see it return

Just add it with 2fort at first

As a "test" ground

i want that cool ass 2fort we checked out

but will probably lag loads of people xD

@Jota FADE Also you should remind moonly when you wanna go through the apps. i cant unless it would be a lot later but i dont mind.

No problem.

me: why is my local server build crashing on startup?

also me:

haven't updated the server since the last update came out

It's not like TF2 players are used to updates at all

So I understand your frustration(edited)

"Update"?

What is it?

some foreign concept to me

I'll try to finish the update page for Soldier's event today

Then the only thing left would be writing contracts

have you picked the cosmetics pool?

Check doc

I may ignore the yellow ones and pick some not-only Soldier on our Workshop.

so 2 maps only?

3 actually, didn't push Ambush there

A few maps were added to our Workshop since last time

i want it

So we can take a look again

When we are sure of the cosmetics ill begin my part

Ok, when are you free today?

Of your time

erm would be like maybe 6:30-7 and after

thats BST atm

its 12:23 pm for me now

@Moonly Days Are you free this time? ^

is 6:30-7 GMT?

2 hours ahead of your time

Yes

So around 8pm for you

So it's 9:30 for me

I have GMT+3

Summer Time

BST to GMT+3 is 2 hours

huh?

British SUMMER Time

Not actual GMT

ffs

yeah

then 8:30

yeah im available

Ok then, I wanna test the last few maps added to our Workshop and go around some cosmetics

and also mod applications?

If you think it's better, then sure

We can do everything at the same time

More people = better

cool yeah

I'm trying to get the patch notes working on the launcher rn

@Robert (rob5300) You think it's a cool idea to make the mod show up a little circle when an update is available?

Ohh yeah i do

Rough

is it indexes or indices?

What

plural of index

Tough.

which one is correct

i think its indices

google confirms that too

English be like: Imma change that word in plural

In portuguese is:

Singular: Índice Plural: Índices

english is kinda fucked in many places

Café: fuck it lets just not bother changing it

what gamemode 4 can be?

anything I forgot?

AH

Arena

right

no one likes arena

There we go

Some pre-determined tf2 values aren't documented anywhere or are outdated

i.e. this is all possible values of m_nGameType gamerule

Not even on Valve Dev Wiki?

nope

nothing here

valve dev wiki is the last place you are going to find info in

for sourcemod coding

most of the tf2 definitions are described at community forums

or github(edited)

i.e. this

or this(edited)

this

and hell of a lot other stuff

valve dev wiki is useful if you're messing with entities

Tbh they are working very hard on the game

So they don't have time to do documentation

ikr

I understand them

me either

i'd not work on the documentation if I were them as well(edited)

Same(edited)

well i guess they document stuff you are meant to interact with

stac.smx is crashing my local windows tf2 server

does it have linux only stuff?

i presume no

it still crashes

do you get a call stack?

let me check accelerator

right

here is the dump

something with sourcemod.logic.dll!LoadFromAddress

Hmm

Looks like a crash

Analyzing 101

Can you just unload it for the time being?

that's what i did

Ok, change of plans

Nether Update is out

I'll brb

wait is it?

pog

haha nice one

alright

time to play minecraft

yeah probably isnt a crash that is easily fixable cus this is a crash outside of sp

We are still doing the call at 6pm btw

So don't go full sicko mode

kk

okay. also why is your profile picture that

I don't know what you are talking about

What if you wanted to make ctf overhaul plugin But Mojang said:

Can you host it on your server?

Your MC one

i want to

Make an announcement for that there, it's a big one

but spigot 1.16 is not yet available

so ill take vanilla

Ahhh

it still shows 1.15

It's taking a while to roll out for everyone

the client build is already out

nvm

i have the jar

:P

I love how Minecraft's command block is simply JSON

atleast its not some other wacko format

Could you whitelist me there, Moonly?

k

lol

tf is that

Buzzzing

What

Chicken Run 2

woot

markdown ruined it :D

minecraft:playerkilledentity

instead of minecraft:player_killed_entity

@JonathanTF You appeared in Anomaly's latest video bro you famous now

Lol what how?

@Jota send screenshot

Very famous

Oh that is the actual anomoly on your friends, i thought it was some random]

Do you think it is possible to make new types of Australium weapons?

Australium Vaccinator or like

any weapon that does not have an Australium variant yet(edited)

And possible not technically

Because technically it is

I mean will this be an issue with Valve?

I'm thinking about possible loot for our mvm collab

honestly i don't see why not, if valve does have an issue with it, we'd remove it

csgo servers still offer custom/current knives, gloves, etc. and they don't get in trouble

If it's stock than I don't think it's a problem

I'm more worried about unlocks

Valve, technically sell them

so for example, we shouldn't give out valve items, such as ausie rocket launcher(edited)

I mean, Australium Shotgun is no doubt possible

Because it's a stock weapons that is obtainable by anyone by default

i mean the vaccinator i'd say is even acceptable

But something like Australium Dragon's Fury for example

nah i think that'd be okay

Valve are technically selling those weapons

They're cheap(edited)

But it's still not free

ehhh, weapons are the cheapest part of the economy so i think it's okay

Jonathan is not 18+, got it

I asked tyler about it

I know he left social media for a week

But i hope he reads it

Um what

I am 18

Please check its not a scam email first

were you under 18 when you opened the account?

can we please not encourage any more vaccinator use

aussie kritz would make more sense and is a much more entertaining weapon

How is the vaccinator in regards to the other med guns

i thought weapon balancing was just for custom weapons

No

ill encourage users to use jarate by making australium jarate

Just waiting for Rob right now

Hello

Do you wanna do it now?

Yes, ASAP.

Let me jump on my pc

I am here

@Moonly Days @JonathanTF

2 mins

@Moonly Days @JonathanTF that's kinda shitty "hey so, you were under 18 when you made this account so even if you're over 18 now it's locked, kbye"

no but I was

over 18

that's the thing

I mean even if you were under, it's shitty to lock it if you're over 18 actually it's shitty period considering how many places need paypal nowadays

you pretty much need a paypal, even if you're under 18

that was pretty much fixed a while ago

And never documented, RIP

here's the commit

I will put this in the next patch note

from 3 months ago

fixing it

It happened to someone recently

So... I don't know anymore

probably just a coincidence

So blame Source

or something made a quirk and broke something

more like sauce

Did you guys find a way to enable glow for admins only on the server when in spec?

wtf @JonathanTF

no

why man

Check #server_related and I think #sourcemod_related

There was the "committing a change directly to master to disable the slur blocker without consensus" thing from a few days ago

Then him (in my opinion) talking down to Stephanie about it

Apparently calling someone out for bypassing consensus entirely to disable something they don't like is "persecuting" them. I'm also just guessing that that's what he meant by persecution.(edited)

Would've been nice to discuss this before he went and shut things down but he did so and then immediately left the discord

Took his ball and went home basically

@404UNF stfu in public discord please

keep it here

i realize you didn't say anything regarding the "events" but just be silent there for now.

This is the type of shit I've been talking about though and I knew something like this was going to happen. Especially when it involves people who get an inflated ego because they're in control of things. I forgot he was the owner of some of the servers but regardless, bypassing consensus to remove something you disagree with is a dick move.

We're a team, we're supposed to be working as a team and discussing things as a team. Not talking down to others because we dislike their ideas and sneakily removing stuff.(edited)

Now I'm catching wind of rumors of a 4chan thread about the "drama"

If it's legit, I have only one guess as to who made and it should be obvious as to who it was. As well, I don't care to read it, and if in the off chance i am named in it, I won't be responding to anything said in it in public.

That's what I usually do and it always ends badly.

o7 farewell @JonathanTF, ill miss you thank you so much for the tons of work you put into the project

Apparently the 4chan vg thread rumor is real

I'm not checking it out

But for it to have spread this quick it's fairly obvious it was Jon who posted it

Apparently it's leaked private convos from an "ex creators admin" so that confirms that.(edited)

So I checked that vg thread, it's a problem. https://i.4cdn.org/vg/1592966457514.png Site is actually down

Knew it was Jon

So we're cucks eh

Good riddance to bad publicity.

Send the thread link to moonly

So we need to check if the domain is unregistered, if so, we need to register it before someone else takes it.

Well shit

im not at my house

does anybody else actually know how to do any of this website or server stuff

So one of Jon's things he put on /vg/was that he was threatened with being physically assaulted

He's referring to me telling him not to say fag again or I'd Jesus walk across the ocean to the UK and slap him, an obvious joke as you can tell by the Jesus walking across the ocean bit

He's playing the victim lmao

Everything should still be readable in server related or SourceMod related, I forget which channel that happened in

maybe he just doesnt like being around us and is using that as an excuse to get away

‍♂️

This was all over the slur blocker stuff

Things weren't even tense or anything in #sourcemod_related after I made the joke about Jesus walking over the ocean to slap him if he said fag again

and you're still talking in pub discord

after i've told you to stop

It's a moot point at this point

Everyone knows what happened thanks to Jon

what part of wait do you not understand

All we can do is wait for Moonly to wake up

yes, that is the best option, but also quit typing in the public discord

why is that so hard to understand?

i've already made an announcement about the situation, leave it at that, no one speak in the public discord till moonly gets online.

period. end of discussion.

Where did you post this announcement because it's not in announcements and I'm currently being asked by Retro to put out an announcement

Twiddle dee dee

Zonical just did a mini announcement in general

It's still active, so we dont have to worry about domain jacking from others

If you wanna go yell at him too nano

And RGB pinned it

Zonical is not part of the staff team so im not worried about him right now

Looks like rgb is done

Check mod chat

I'm gonna go smoke weed and get blazed while waiting for Moonly to get online

So issues from this: 1. Site is down, but domain is still registered 2. Servers are down, but those can be restarted|remade 3. iirc, jonathan was a card holder

I'd say the domain and that jonathan has access to the card are the biggest issues

Public reaction to the slur blocker has kind of turned my opinion about if we need it the other way. Perhaps a slur blocker might not be the best route to take.

maybe its a simple minded opinion but the mute buttom does exist

Ok someone who is an ex dev is most definitely posting on 4chan. As no one knew I was on staff. It’s not even on the website.

It is Jonathan

Jonathan leaked shit to 4chan

Also Boba is now aware of the thread so that should lead to some comedy in the main discord

Why bring me up though

Because Jonathan is Jonathan, idk

Like legit why

I haven't read the thread nor do I plan to. Did he really bring you up over some perceived misjustice or something?

I know he hinted at me with the "threatened with violence" thing which is laughable

Something something I’m hitting on all the in his words, “trannies” and pocketing the donation money for my fallout 76 microtransaction addiction

So he's pulling stuff out his ass then

‍♂️

I didn’t even do anything

aight I was going to take jons side on this

just cause the political shit is fucking annoying

We know that. Hopefully an announcement will be posted that dispels the lies he's spreading.

we're a video game project not a LGBT, POC, whatever the fuck server

but Jon is just as irritating on his PMA and lack of ability to man up as political stuff is

True but we can't be allowing that type of anti-whatever talk in here.

You allow whatever the fucking game allows

https://boards.4channel.org/vg/thread/296711716#p296821783 https://boards.4channel.org/vg/thread/296711716#p296822063 https://boards.4channel.org/vg/thread/296711716#p296822448 seriously. What the fuck is this

We don't want people harassing people fine, you go on a case by case basis

His excuses of already planning to leave reminds me of the dude who got VAC'd with thousands of dollars in cosmetics and tried to play it off like he didn't care.

What the

i go to play mario odyssey for 2 hours

You come back to this

good thing i know how to operate a server network AND im not a racist hate speech spewing shithead

kekw

I'm on leave from social media and work altogether right now, and my phone blows up.

What is going on?

Jon left

Okay

Why?

Shut off the servers, the site, and left

Jon left due to political differences, took stuff down with him transferred it to moonly

Political Differences?

How so?

bad words

Wasn't willing to implement a word filter on the servers

Over words like tranny and fag and such

i said "we should moderate our servers slightly"

Called us cucks on 4chan

Oh wow

Okay

Leaked private convos

You wanted a full chat moderation program

no i didn't

read

And you banned numerous people over this stuff in the past

I thought we agreed on this weeks ago

There's a claim he was threatened with violence, that is in regards to me in #sourcemod_related jokingly saying I'd Jesus walk over the ocean to the UK to slap him if he said fag again

i have a local copy of the gitlab at least

i have a copy of the db as well

sooo

Don't put this all on jon, the dude had legitimate grievances with things. The way that he left was wrong but to act like nothing he said or concerns he had were valid is stupid.

he was a simpleton

lets be real here

He was a normal UK dude.

didnt want to implement a simple word filter for people saying the n word

Said I’m embezzleing the money for fallout 76 purchases. As well as being a creep and hitting on @stephanie @404UNF and @Jota I didn’t even do anything. What the hell(edited)

Yeah admittedly when the public discord had an outcry over the slur blocker it kinda changed my stance on it. I'm thinking a blocker might not be the best route.

i mean it was a very small outcry by 1 person

We may lose a ton of players over it, idk

Outcry over a slur blocker?

we have 0 players

rn

No just now before you came back steph

Not everyone that disagrees with you is a homophobe/racist/transphobe btw

Or a few mins ago rather

i never said that togue

There was a bunch of people talking about how a slur blocker wouldn't really help solve the issue

None of this shit should even be relevant we're a fucking video game project

And how there are ways around it

to be fair there are built in options into our favorite videogame that allow us to personally moderate the chat to our liking

to mute whoever wed like

I don’t even deal with the money. How the hell am I stealing it

Yeah and that's one way to handle it. It's a bit of a cheap way of handling it, telling people to just disable chat. Maybe they want to chat but not see slurs? Idk. It's a tricky subject.

it's really not

if someone says the n word or another slur like it they should be prevented from typing for an amount of time

Many game communities do use slur blockers and stuff. Just because we're a game community doesn't mean we can't worry about curbing that kind of language

why should you be allowed to say slurs

its not your right to be racist or bigoted on a private server network run by volunteers

regardless i'm not worried about that right now- what are we doing to turn shit back on

Yes that's the main focus. Get stuff back up.

if we don't currently have a webserver i would be happy to host a like temporary "We'll Be Back" page on my own webserver

what did jon do with the servers

Took them down

where's patreon money going

Not to me

I've been getting DM's from people warning me about the megabastard.tf server being racist and such and that we need to ban everyone from there. Apparently Jon's still in there as well

unsuprising

I don’t even know why that’s even a question if I’m pocketing it

I've seen no evidence to show they're racist, mind, so grain of salt there.

Ok so... what now

Wait for Moonly to wake up because Jon said he sent stuff to Moonly to get shit running again or something

Purge Jon from the site

i have a very recent sql dump myself as well

I'm certain Jon would've sent the most recent DB dump

But hold onto that in case

still have the most recent vers of gitlab

locally

idk how to operate docker or ptero on my own but i'm still quaruntined so i'd be up for learning

Can we finally ban boba

@ the very least for the time being i could put up like 4 chicago servers as a temporary stopgap

ik docker but not ptro yet, so I could learn it and help tohru out with the servers if needed

who has control of social media acct

God I feel bad for Moonly. He's gonna wake up to all this shit

megabastard.tf is filled with a bunch of 14 year old trans trenders wtf are you all talking about

they literally had a meltdown over us not changing the logo to a pride one

.......

A few people have Creator's is dead in their names and are using symbols to boost their names to the top of the user list

welp people are demanding I show my purchase history. I might be in deep shit now because.. I've been buying 76 stuff. With my monthly Valve royalties.

togue pls dont call ppl trenders lmfao

Then you explain they're your royalties from items. You are a contributor.

you honestly think they'll believe what I say

I'll call them exactly what they are

And if some idiot is still under the assumption you're lying, ignore them. They aren't worth your time.

Vipes you'll be good, if someone doesn't believe you that's on them

So 1 person accused them of being racist?

.(edited)

Touge weren't you the one who almost got votekicked by me and McVicker for saying tranny

Literally search pride, pride logo, lgbt, etc in the main dsicord

Or was that stox

I forget

Yeah I was and the rest of the team was on my side

jon was also one of the main people who prevented us from changing the logo

please dont say slurs !

You gonna get mad at me for calling my friends spics?

I would search it but I'm not in the alt discord

shut up

dude

just

cmon man

Yes please do otherwise that vote will be taken again and I'll make sure of that

I'm a Mexican lmao

Please do stop the slurs*

Oh

You're cool then

Just like....tone it down about 25%?

i mean youre definitely not trans

With the slur usage

:P

And I went to therapy for gender dysphoria thank you very much

so please kindly stop talking about trenders and stop saying tranny

Ok dude.

But please tell me more about my own identity

Ok let's not fight over this stuff

We all know the words have hateful intentions

Please stop.

Saying it even if you're "allowed to" shouldn't be cool here

I request all conversation here to be about moving the team forward, and nothing else.

We are an inclusive community.

This attitude is 100% why Jon left

Ok what do we do

@tougeFoodService and he proved with his actions afterward that he didn't belong here

Right now we need our project back online before we can making ANY decision about future behavior and rules.

Context matters, if we can't admit that the schism between members and our ideologies is only going to get bigger

who has social media access

That is what i care about right now

Jota I think

he is a sleep

I'm gonna keep quiet now and let Tyler take control

who has dns access

moonly?

Moonly

i have the keypass file, ill check if its in there

Tohru has server access iirc. I could help him remake the servers if needed

define "server access"

DB was sent to moonly from what we've heard, so that should be safe

got it!

got the domain?(edited)

server access as in he setup petro and stuff for the servers

sec

sec

I'll be stepping up to right the ship for a few weeks.

We may need to cut the team down to the essential parts for a while, and slowly expand back out to where we were.

Sounds like an excuse to get rid of people who you don't like tbh

I volunteer for being axed

for the time being at least

@Tyler McVicker Can you give some details on "essential parts" and some reasons on why they're essentials?

i dont see the use in chopping off parts of the team

I’ll be honest here. We need to structure our staff team. We strongly need a project manager. Need people to understand their lanes and how they contribute to the team, but not let their ego get to them as well. I’m not talking about anyone specific, just the fact that those are our main deficits as a team currently.

you don't have to worry about my ego

I have a net negative

working on site now

sec

That is something that has yet to be decided, so I don't know.

the backend servers are still up

well

actualyl i just started them

What I'd consider essential rn would be those who can rebuild/resetup the site, db and servers.

entered passwd manuallky

So you just randomly suggest we cut people instead of organizing? @Tyler McVicker

either jon changed the dns to cloudflare or its always been that way

but i dont have dns access i think

Organization has been the issue for the project since I've joined, I've had the stats for the injector for maybe a month now?

Like they've been proposed, discussed and submitted to moonly and nothing has happened

We have a Trello

From a month ago

i dont have access to trello

Which I think we all need to use more

;o stephhhhh why(edited)

Not everyone has it, not everyone is going to be able to use it effectively.

i dont either

Lol jonathon didnt wipe any backend servers

ive applied for access but nothing happens

Hmm...if we had our own site-based Trello thing that used our steam logins that'd be neat

he mightve done servers but i dont see any backend servers wiped

Having people capable of getting shit together, and having deadlines for things would make this whole project 1000000000000X smoother

Instead of cutting people we randomly deem "unnecessary"

mk so stop arguing about whatever youre arguing about, i got a status report for you-

all the backend servers are fine, they were shut off, not wiped jon nulled out the cloudflare ip to point to the website, so itll just have to be reconnected idk if @Moonly Days has the password / username for that, if not we can contact cloudflare support i guess

i have not checked the game servers yet

it looks to me like theyre all gone

someone should make an announcement in the general discord's announcement channel with an ETA

id say... couple days?

maybe 5?

@Gamecube762 who is tohru in here again

are they even in here

idr

Mm

they cant chat in discord

does anyone ( @everyone ) here have cloudflare access(edited)

also i'm going to change the password for the vmware site

changed

Yeah servers would've been shutdown as Jon said in his announcement.

And yeah we should change any and all passwords from the password state site we use asap and cut Jon's access off

I'd suggest not making changes till moonly gets on

i don't want any more damage caused

ugh i have to change all the ssh passwords now

Whichever sites and things we use that Jon has access to will need his access removed, sites DB will need an update to remove his is_admin flag thing in the "users" table, and remove his entry from the people page, etc.(edited)

i have the keypass db

so

first order of buisness is get cloudflare access(edited)

Sourcebans

securi password changed

Probably a bunch of other things I'm forgetting too.

honestly

i'm going to shut down the backend servers

until moonly gets on(edited)

and then we can change those passwords

i don't want to deal with it right now without him

hey um, if you guys need a fall guy. use me. don't think anything I say can prove otherwise what they think. I don't mind if it damages my reputation. Kinda got none to start off with.

for now - vmware password changed, and the sucuri password is changed

I dont think we need a fall guy

the fall guy would be jonathon

because he did this

If anything the situation is already public, we dont need to throw someone under the bus for it

That will just create even more drama. People legit think I'm stealing money. I don't mind being taken behind the shed. Honest. Something this big does not deserve to die

Vipes stop being so down on yourself.

You did nothing wrong, if some retards get mad at you and blame you for things you didn't do that's on them not you

This is entirely on Jon and his inability to handle different opinions in a mature manner

vipes this is not your fault or responsiblity

like me and touge disagree on shit but touge isnt doing shit behind my back and exploding servers

because we're like. Not children

no, I know the servers aren't. but people are trying to spend the "vanishing" money on me. I've gotten to the point to where fine, if it'll shut them up, let them believe it. I can't prove otherwise. Anything any of you say will be used as saying you're covering it up. You can't win here.

@Vipes Everything is fine my dude, I don't believe the rumors, it's going to be okay.

I hope so. Because I'm legit panicking right now.

mk

sent moonly the new keypass db

Why?

Even if you took the money and ran

what realistically would happen?

C.tf lawsuit over like what a few hundred bucks?

... $500

in my defense, any valve royalty money I get is just extra I do whatever I want with

Yeah it's your money to do with what you want

If you want to go blow it on a couple high price hookers and cocaine, that's your choice

thing is I can't prove it's valve royalty money simply because of the steam revenue tos bullshit

you're really worried about the community reaction to 500 bucks

you're fine dude

Who collects the Patreon?

Moonly?

these are the same people who hounded me because they thought I stole from other workshoppers

this dumbass thing

Who Collects the Patreon money?

Vipes, send a report in against it. Pastebin is great for taking shit like that down(edited)

Honestly I thought it was Jon since wasn't he paying the stuff or something

collecting the pateron that is

I'll toss a report in on it too

That needs figured out

Iirc, it was between jon and moonly

jon had cardholder

sounds about right

I was under that impression as well.

We need to wait for moonly to wake up

@everyone Voice chat for anyone that can join, please.

I have no mic so don't expect me to say anything.

We could also put out an announcement from someone high up like Moonly or McVicker in the main discord explaining that Vipes has no access to our Patreon money and any rumors of him embezzling Patreon money is false.

Thing is, no one knew I was staff before this, meaning an ex dev really pulled some bullshit out their ass

I didn't want people to know just to avoid something like this

@Vipes it was jon

Well I guess since it's out, no point in me hiding it.

@Tyler McVicker That's a good idea, public trello. Back when I was working with Garry's Mod Tower, we had one

@Tyler McVicker keep me far away from any mod/admin position or social interaction. I do not do well, and in fact avoid when I can.

@stephanie luckily the servers repo on gitlab is set up to basically be drag and drop

I think all the configs are filled out already

I mean can we even do anything until Moonly wakes up

wait, all of this bullshit happened because of a chat filter...? you know the thing many community servers use?

https://dedicated.com/ <- possible chicago host ( i use them ) https://www.ovh.com <- definite europe host (multiple locations)

bare minimum right now

chicago and europe (probably UK)(edited)

could do 24gb for 75 a mo

@tougeFoodService can't speak for how it is before, but it's at least somewhat like a real bethesda fallout now(edited)

the NPCs helped

but yeah, I came in with Wastelanders, so I have no clue how bad it was. I don't doubt it was a dumpster fire

i rejoined the public discord, if someone could give me the staff role please i would appreciate it @Jota(edited)

Wastlanders pretty much added human npcs and shit, and you know, made it an actual fallout game

i do not want discord mod.(edited)

@tougeFoodService https://twitter.com/vipespienaar/status/1248479171371601923 tl;dr two major content creators Metabolic and Drew hate my guts and did anything they could to make me quit the workshop

even doxxed me

I remember when /x/ was good. now it's all "vampire rp" stupidity

again, just meta and drew trying to get me out of the picture because they personally hate me

is /m/echa at least good still? was my major hangout

Lol I got called a tranny and a drug addict in the thread

@Vipes I loved the paranornal experiences threads

same

Fuck quotes stop tagging people

Or the creepy gaming threads

/x/ truly use to be good

@Tyler McVicker twiku from SourceMod discord offered his assistance. Should I invite him?(edited)

Yes

Tell him yes

ive known him for a long while

he is a dedicated hard worker

he's a good dude

sm / tf2 genie

genie and genius(edited)

@tougeFoodService https://yuki.la/search.html?boards=all&startdate=2008-02-02&enddate=2020-06-24&sort=descending&postext=vipes#page=1 /tf2g/ loooooooooooves talking about me

If Tyler gives me a thumbs up, I can invite him

wait now that jon is gone can we go to github finally

Why are there 4 of you in voice chat all with your mics muted :P(edited)

https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/hew8c4/creatorstf_servers_discord_and_website_down_for/?sort=confidence welp also, never link 4chan, use archive links

i'm going to invite twiikuu unless anyone has a problem with that

I was waiting for Tyler's say-so

@404UNF voice chat meeting, remember. just think we're too lazy to hit disconnect

yo @elkfrag do you have discord mod in this server

invited twiikuu

someone will have to give him the role

He not in yet

i sent him an invite

so

And yeah in Jon's leak thing there was talk from him in a discord convo where he said he was done with tf2 and planning on leaving anyway so he really could've sprung this on us at any time. Be glad he did it sooner rather than later so we can get over this hump quicker.

Hi @twiikuu

greetings

Turns out I can give the creators.tf role

Thought the server dev role gave access but it didnt

Thank fuck Boba left my tf2 cut content discord

Now if he'd just leave our discord

@404UNF Sure

Lol steph invited him in already :P

But hey, he is a wizard

I don't mind getting veto'd after the fact, I'm a grown up, do as needed

@everyone Moonly is here

VC

i was abt to sleep

augh

I can't sleep, too worked up about this

gimme 5

should I be attending this?(edited)

Anyone, if you want

@stephanie if you need cloudflare access dm me your cf email

or just send it here

sorry you had to wake up this Moonly

twikuu is here to assist with gameserver operation if we need it, he's a wizard

@Moonly Days all this bullshit happened over... get this a chat filter something almost all community servers have a fucking chat filter

no I mean jon said no to adding one, then everything caught on fire

#server_related and #sourcemod_related

to get caught up

@Moonly Days thesqrtminus1@gmail.com

apparently he took me jokingly saying i would jesus-walk on water to the UK to slap him if he said "Fag" again as me threatening him. he did not express this at any point in time between me saying it and him leaving. he even replied to me and explained he was gay, etc. so i was like "shit so it's cool for you to say then". then he left.

so he could've sprung this on us at any time

what did u say before

ur message was edited

do we have a message logs thing

it was probably a misspell i corrected

i have no idea lol

or i think i added "from Canada to the UK" instead of just "to the UK"

i suppose the initial "i will slap you" came off bad but it was purely a joke. i'm a joke-y person. it's the type of thing where you should be able to notice when i'm being serious. like earlier with Jota about the slur stuff, I was serious then

had i known he had taken it so badly i would've talked to him about it but he decided to leave idk how many minutes after the fact

he called us cucks on 4chan, he seems to be into that crowd

a real gamer

i was sitting outside after the discussion having a smoke when i got the mobile popup of his everyone ping in #announcements

came out of left field

god forbid little timmy can't say the n word

what ever shall he do

retr0 and zonical handled the situation very well. locked down the discord due to major spam and toxicity, then they had to restrict reactions when people spelled out the n word in reactions to McVicker's messages in #general. then they had to restrict name changes as people were using nicks to say shit

for me its whatever theres already in game options in place to tailor your experience if you dont like that stuff

@Tyler McVicker not to sound like an ass, but why doesn't valve just like push out a crate every two months or something? Is it really that much work?

at least give us something, you know

OW chat filter is the most reasonable one

sorry for the change of subject, it's something that always bothered me. it's not like they have a small pool to choose from

The public discord's reaction to "chat filter" was a big no. I think we can make it work though. Make it replace swears and slurs with ****** type of thing, but then have a "Profanity filter" toggle (a la RuneScape) where you can disable it and see uncensored stuff.

damn I really need to get a microphone. but my social anxiety would prevent me from using one anyway

tell 'em I'm in

if it's all of us, I can't

I don't have the permissions

no fuckin clue

@everyone website back up

great

where is this hosted?

51.178.115.204

jesus they're really making a meme outta me "stealing" the pateron money to buy fallout stuff

refresh your dns

did

ipconfig /flushdns ?

idk

did this

probably dns propagation then

need a static "BRB" page asap

lol

someone posted pictures of spiderbro on the 4chan thread

that spider i caught in my house in a pringles can and blew weed smoke onto then let him go into my backyard

making me out to be an animal torturer

kinda fucked what you did, but very blown outta proportion via 4chan as usual

pfft, it's a bloody spider

there's like fifty quadrillion of the little fuckers everywhere

dude im p sure smoke just like

calms bugs down

does it

it's not like they have enough braincells to be damaged by them

lol

and a new thread was made

with an updated pic

featuring chat from steph

and jon

and me

spider got high probs made some sick webs

and then went on with life

PLEASE delete this embed

PLEASE

PLEASE

there

stop reading that thread

they're really memeing the fuck out of me and fallout

powertripper: fake

embezzler: fake

other thing: fake

creators.tf: fake

yeah i'mma stop reading 4chan

would be good for my mental health

Fuck I woke up to a lot

I'm not gonna lie, I was kinda chuckling at them trying to bring up fallout whenever now

ugh some of this stuff is horrible

@Tyler McVicker so about my question, I really always have wondered that

yea @stephanie i have the mod role

a little late but

"not to sound like an ass, but why doesn't valve just like push out a crate every two months or something? Is it really that much work? at least give us something, you know"

I mean it's like a sea of content that could be picked out in less than an hour

oh i think i know who leaked the spiderbro stuff

Moth

someone posted a video of me with a previous spiderbro where i whacked it with a flyswatter or something a few times

like who cares, people whack spiders every day

probs was moth

oh no wait i misread that post

that was a shot at megabastard.tf

here i am feeling worried that i'm gonna have half the internet on my ass over killing a spider or blowing weed smoke on it and it hit me....who the fuck cares lmao it's just a spider

ain't gonna let it give me a panic attack

Nah get rid of megabastard.tf

regardless of why we dislike them

we all dislike them and know they're more trouble than they're worth

flamewarduck says they're racist in there but yet i've seen no proof

we can't ban them for their own convos

that's stupid

we can ban them for raiding

and for constantly baiting drama, breaking rules etc.

> > > >

Why Marty hasn't been banned

despite harassing steph and being a part of megabastard

is beyond me

while some may feel that we can't get political because we're a game server provider, we're in a moment in time right now where these issues are being pushed to the forefront

what is megabastars.tf

the alt server

where Jon fled to

whaa

where the leaks probably are emanating from

like an alt tf2 server or discord server

alternate discord server

it's like a safe haven for those who get banned from the main discord

interesting

ayyyy

i kind of wanna join it

i can connect to the site

will i get shit if i join mb.tf

creators.tf site is back

guess not

it was

it just now got changed to that

unless my browser was friggin' with me and showing me a locally cached version or something(edited)

need a new permanent discord link

discord.gg/ygEZD3x

the first one is gone

reduced to atoms

ygEZD3x works

and is the current one we're to be using

cool

i fixed the link to that one back on the 18th in my TF2 Cut Content Discord(edited)

i think we got rid of all invites but that one

from 15h ago

was that Jon moving the Discord bots to our repos

that was me

oh

I moved discord bots repos from root to /Discord Bots subgroup

megabastard.tf purge when

https://twitter.com/Yousrnmesim/status/1275673250002059264 oof

yes someone who has no access to patreon was taking patreon money

logic

You know what

Jon was super active with megabastard as well.

we'll deal with that later

Well it's almost 6am. I'm gonna get some sleep

Actually gonna finish this beer first then get some sleep

https://www.soyoustart.com/us/game-servers/ arie ( guy who hosts all the servers 4 https://serveme.tf ) recommends this for EU @Moonly Days(edited)

in france tho

what about ddos mitigation?

he says it's phenomenal

how many game servers one machine will handle

sec

on server CPUs you kinda stick to 1 srcds per core, but considering these are consumer CPUs you might be able to push further

also @Moonly Days pls remember to give me master & develop push access(edited)

just @ some point obvs lol

not rn(edited)

So you start is the basic form of OVH

is it a reseller?

Kimsufi is the intermediate form and OVH is business class

Sys is cheapest

but same performance?

as ovh(edited)

if serveme uses it

My vps for example is a $20/month from kimsufi. Some say kimsufi and OVH are crap but Ive had no issues

we used OVH and it ran smooth

you could just use ovh

honestly just do the same plan

for EU

Would be best to have a dedicated machine again where possible

US is gonna be fucking annoying

we can't do virginia again because we'd fuck over LA players

i think we should look for CHI

so OVH or SYS for EU?

https://www.ovh.ie/dedicated_servers/game/prices/ OVH game servers in comparison

so SYS?

better CPUs so they push higher speeds, but the offer from SYS should mean cheaper overall

game servers in OVH are expensive woah

one 3600x could potentially handle 12 servers

would need to test to make sure

yeah definitely(edited)

so we stick with SYS for now?

if going SYS, Game-1 would be better than Game-2, the onyl difference is RAM which won't be used anyways

seems like a sound plan to start

so we take this

ye

actually gimme second

Yeah ovh is business class. I used to be grandfathered in with ovh with a $40/month vps before they launched kimsufi

yes go GAME-1

does it look good?

finding a promo code maybe

pls do

for us / chicago-

could also just do a vps

wait those are already promo offers so i doubt you can apply promos

so it's 30$

+ setup fee

ya, cant find any better

Twiikuu you are a god send

lol i havent even done anything

but thank you

so helpful thoughhhhhh

go get some sleep

Thanks for helping. no idea this was gonna happen

I am sleepy

@Moonly Days the 10 core vps for nfo seems reasonable to me

thinking about this talk once again https://youtu.be/2CQ1sxPppV4

cool tech we'll never have access to

valve be like-

lets make all this cool shit and not do anything with it

Valve be like- .

eu servers was purchased

processing

imma make a tweet

brit attention?

Im taking a look

"Servers and website are down for maintenance while we try to recover after a recent internal incident. More info about what happened coming soon after we recover our services."

hey moonly did you see what i said abt nfo servs

let me figure out eu first

mk

well, this is also something to wake up to I guess

Same as me xD

brb sleeping

I think once servers and website are back, we need to have a meeting to discuss the power structure of this project, to avoid stuff like this happening in the future

And as much as I hate it, the cat's out of the bag with me. People now know I'm part of the staff. I guess time to add me to the website.

I didn't want people to know just so shit like this wouldn't happen

I'm an introvert to the max. I think you can figure why I wanted to keep me a secret

secret society time

I agree with gps. Best is for moonly to have control of payment and servers, everything crucial

Rule #1

I own the servers

So noone can purge them by themselves

I guess just have my flavor text be "do not disturb" or something

we need a website first to put someone on it :P

Wasn't the website back up? Like not even that long ago?

it is but it returns a plain text message(edited)

Yeah but I could actually access everything

Yeah it was back up fully for a minute there

so I'm not crazy

Got to the homepage and everything

yeah

Maybe i should make a blender plugin to do cosmetic conversion soo incase i die the loadout can be usable still

even checked our workshop to make sure nothing was lost

rob do not die

database is okay, jonathan gave us that

i dont wanna die either xD

you have a reason to live

you have family

friends

snif i know

Rob, why do you need a cosmetic conversion plugin

im still on call for sfm posters and text and emergency community management

because js cannot render mdl models

so he need to convert them to opengl-supported format

The system rn uses the models in a half custom way in the glb (gltf) format

probably best if it can be done easily and automatically. ill have a go sometime

sooooooooo it can't render .dmx either?

web browser is not built on Source engine

so no

lmao

.dmx isn't strictly source though, is it?

can we make a browser built on the Source engine

they are weird formats for source only. the loadout.tf website i think has a custom parser for it they wrote

no modern software uses it

another reason why I asked you guys to talk to him

But then i have to wire up mesh crap and waaa

that's not a problem to write a script

we're fine

Someone made cs1.6 in browser

asm.js is cheating

Javascript *shudder*

you should see the launcher

please tell me you guys aren't recompiling the models at least for our updates. Because TF2 formats them perfectly when you want to upload a verified file

its full of Promises its hard to read

this.DoThis().then((arg) => {});

we're not recompiling actual models

tfg

its only for the website stuff